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    Titanium and niobium not for new piercings?

    From www.Whitetigertattoos.com

    "We don't like [titanium] for new piercings because the finish can come off in your new piercing."

    This site also says niobium is porous enough to hold bacteria and therefore bad.

    Have you heard of problems with Titanium in new piercings? Is there another material you would recommend in facial piercings for nickel sensitive people?

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    Re: Titanium and niobium not for new piercings?

    Here in the UK (or Europe generally), most piercings are done with Ti, because you're not allowed to use steel because of the nickel in it.

    The finish on Titanium, I assume they mean colours? There was something on BMEs QOD the other day about titanium colours fading, but it does fade rather than 'come off'. The colours aren't a plating, its something to do with electricity. Er, anyway, have a look at BME, they explained it much better than I can [img]/emoticons/emotion-1.gif[/img]

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    Re: Titanium and niobium not for new piercings?

    LOL.. that tattoo shop has no idea what they are talking about. Here is the list of what jewelry can be used in an initial piercing according the Assocation of Professional Piercers (which I'm sure that tattoo parlor is not a part of)...<br /<a target="_blank" href=http://www.safepiercing.org/standards.html>http://www.safepiercing.org/standards.html</a>

    Anodized titanium does not flake off.. it can just fade over time, especially if worn in the mouth. BUT, you can use high polish (which means it's not colored) and looks just like steel. Niobium is the same way.. you can use it just as plain polish.

    I would get your piercing done somewhere else. Titanium would be my #1 choice for getting pierced with if they let you choose. If not, make sure they tell you it's 316LVM ASTMF-138 implant grade steel. They should know this by heart if they are a reputable shop.
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    Re: Titanium and niobium not for new piercings?

    The only way I would think that titanium jewelry would flake off is if were plated and I have never heard o titanium plated jewelry. Wierd....


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    Re: Titanium and niobium not for new piercings?

    I don't think they were saying titanium flakes. But there is a surface layer and the color does fade from it. So the question is where does it go when it fades? Or is it a chemical change?

    Also, with niobium, they weren't saying it flakes either. They were saying it is too porous so it can hold bacteria.

    The safe piercing standards also so that 14k gold is acceptable for a new piercing and I disagree (for my piercings.) There are so many other metals in it (42%) that it irritated it.

    I am hoping Jag will see this post and give his opinion?

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    Re: Titanium and niobium not for new piercings?

    have you tried piercing-standard stainless steel?

    my mom has to buy nickel-sensitive jewelry but she didn't have a problem with what she was pierced with.

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    Re: Titanium and niobium not for new piercings?

    I looked up more info. This site<a target="_blank" href=http://www.faqs.org/faqs/bodyart/piercing-faq/jewelry/partA/>http://www.faqs.org/faqs/bodyart/piercing-faq/jewelry/partA/</a>
    says that Titanium is good.

    They say that niobium can be a problem mainly if it is a matte finish. But it can also be a problem if the manufacturer doesn't polish it properly because it is so porous.

    And they say you should stick with 18k gold or higher for new piercings.

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    Re: Titanium and niobium not for new piercings?

    Titanium does not flake off. The "coloured" layer is actually just an oxide (oxygen) layer. What happens when this layer comes/fades off is your body absorbs oxygen. Same thing with Niobium. Niobum is more porous but can be polished to an acceptable level for use. If you are allergic to nickel then go with either titanium or gold. Even 14k gold does not contain nickel. 18k gold is acceptable too. Anything higher or lower is not. Higher is too soft and lower is not pure enough.

    But yes, go with the titanium at another shop. Because it sounds like they don't know what they are talking about. Because the last time I looked, oxygen was good for you. [img]/emoticons/emotion-1.gif[/img]
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    Re: Titanium and niobium not for new piercings?

    Frankenstein says: "Titanium good...fire bad...." so there ya go....

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    Re: Titanium and niobium not for new piercings?

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">Quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by sickofnola

    Frankenstein says: "Titanium good...fire bad...." so there ya go....

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    LOL that is too funny.
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